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Hello! I wanted to reach out through here since i could not find the dev account on twitter anymore... i was wondering where i could send fanart of one of your other games? Is there an E-mail or another account i could tag? 

Of course! We're currently at @InverseNinjas on Twitter because of the Inverse Ninjas game I'm working on and you can always hit me up at trainwreckstudiosgames@gmail.com

Thank you so much!

i am not exaggerating when i say that this is one of my favorite dating sims ever. frankie and kyle are my faves, but every single character is lovable to me. i love lucy. katy's wonderful. the guys all have so much depth - like, i was not expecting the journey i was taken on once we'd found charlie. i was kind of expecting the story to come to a close after that, but no! so much stuff happens and i love it!!

i regularly feel the urge to replay this in its entirety - i even bought it twice! (my laptop's too old to run steam ;-; but i'm so happy the game's on here as well)

This is so kind of you to say! Thank you so much for playing it and it means the world that you'd take the time to comment this! :)

I’m going to sound like such a nerd right now and I’m like 7 years too late but I had to make an account to leave a comment!😭

OMGGG THIS GAME WAS AMAZING AHH!!!
I’ve been pretty hyper fixated on it the past few months (incase you couldn’t tell..) and it’s absolutely killing me that it’s so under appreciated! Honestly though this game was such an enjoyable experience and to everyone involved in the making of it, thank you so much. ❤️

This game was so fun and was pretty unique to me. The characters have really cool and distinct designs which I absolute adored (particularly Frankie🤭) along with their dialogue which was also very well written. It was naturally funny and just made the play through that bit more enjoyable. Additionally the plot itself was cool and I like how it didn’t overshadow the romance throughout the game, it created more of a balance. 

I would have liked to have had a more personalised/ customisable protagonist  (which I know is difficult to do) and maybe a few more interactive scenes with the characters that weren’t crucial to the plot, like expanding on the monopoly scene or something. But other than that the game was a thoroughly enjoyable experience and I can’t wait to purchase more games by you in the future! :D 

(Ps. I’d love to find more information regarding Animal Lover, its soundtrack or other upcoming projects if that’s possible! I’m pretty clueless on how to do that though, so I was wondering is there any site or app you’re more active on?😭🙏🏻)  

- Amy💙

Oh my God, this is so nice of you!

Upcoming projects? Well we've got a Christmas epilogue with a finished script! We just need to add some art assets, it's called An Almost Animal Lover Christmas, and we're not gonna charge anything for it.

But really it means the world that you enjoyed it! I'm working on more VNs right now actually! One's a raunchy comedy- the other a horror, but I think I've imbued both with the same sincerity and humanity I feel defined Animal Lover.

I'm a little late getting to this comment, but thank you so much for the kind words!!!

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Ahh no worries, I’m just thrilled to have gotten a reply lol. Omgg I cannot wait for the Christmas epilogue now though!! 😂 

And that sounds awesome, I’ve been looking for a good VN to play since Animal lover and have been unsuccessful to say the least💀 So I’ll be the first to check them out! :D

I had a response ready but I almost clicked "Ban..." instead and that seems far funnier a response now.

"OMG I can't wait, thank you! [USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST]"

Anyway, thank you so much again!

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Okay, so, I know I'm a little late to the party, but I got a copy of Animal Lover for ps5 and I just wanted to say how much I adored the story, the writing, the characters, etc. etc., and express my sincerest gratitude to the team for making such a phenomenal game

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Thank you so much! It truly means the world to hear that, and I'm really glad you enjoyed it. :D

i know there's not many of them but i really like looking at the cgs after i play a game so is there like an album or gallery of some sort online?

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There isn't, except for apparently the Steam Community Page? I am planning on coming back to Animal Lover soon and potentially revamping it quite a bit. A Gallery is, without question, #1 on my list of refurbishments. Thank you so much for playing Animal Lover, btw!!

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To be honest I don't know how to feel about it, I guess I'm sad. Overall, it was a really great game. It made me cry for the first time in a long time. I think it hurt even more to know beforehand than it would have if I hadn't read the comments section before playing. I would absolutely hand over my wallet if there was a sequel (at least if it had Kyle in it). If I ever want to feel something again I'll come back and do another play through. I feel like someone ripped my heart out of my chest and then stomped all over it with boots made of knives.

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It means the world that you liked it so much, honestly. My apologies for not responding earlier, but I wanted to let you know that these kinds of comments are always deeply appreciated. Thank you so much for playing Animal Lover. :D

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ive played this game twice now, once with sweet dear edmund, and then i went back for kyle, imagine my heartbreak there. this is a wonderful game, and i thank you so much for putting your time and energy into this! maybe write me a fanfic about kyle sometime? aha, this was a really awesome game y'all, and i really thank you for giving me a little serotonin while i played!!

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It means the world to me that you liked it.

There's hope still for a continuation of Animal Lover. It'd be a weird one. And it wouldn't happen for a while. But the dream's not dead.

Thank you so much for playing my game, I'm glad you were into it.

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This is a great game. I really enjoyed it. Is there a sequel to this? Like a next chapter? If so please let me know. I also would like to recommend if there could be a trans girl option or such. Would be very interesting.

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I'm very glad you liked it!

Unfortunately no. I've had a sequel in mind for a long time (cryptically titled Animal Lover: The Damascus Seal), it'd be smaller than Animal Lover with a more unique set of events, but there's no way I can get the original artist back on it and there wasn't enough return for Animal Lover to really make it financially worth it.

C'est la vie. 

Regardless, it means the world that you enjoyed it! Thank you so much for playing!

Awww :( that's very sad. Well, at least I got to play it and that's good enough to me. Thank you so much and no problem!

:) :)

mock me with "Thanks for Playing" as you RIP my boy away from me

MONSTERS 

good game tho ;-;

'Thanks For Playing' is how every good game should end.

So I decided to end my game with it in the hopes that people will mistake it for a good game. 

(I'm glad you liked it. :) )

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This was such a fun experience! I really enjoyed this game. Y'all destroyed me over a fictional guy though (you KNOW who I'm talking about T-T)

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Oh we definitely know who you're talking about.

It's tough to NOT cry over Dustin.

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I mean...he was just so stunning. The hair, the smile the DAWG.

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[kinda spoiler-y?] Well, I never thought I'd be sobbing over fictional characters at 1 am in my 30s, but here we are. Fuckin' Kyle, man.

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Nothing happened to Kyle.

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.

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The dialogue is what drives this game. It's snappy, humorous, but didn't shy away from tackling deeper beliefs that really fleshed out each character. Would love to see more like this with more fleshed-out artwork.

Story - 4/5The overall story is great, and the writer really takes time to develop each character that is introduced. I liked that the relationship develops naturally over the course of the game. I would've liked to have had more decisions to make throughout, as it is a pretty long game for the amount of decisions available.

Visuals - 3/5Each character is clearly delineated from another, from the clothes they wear down to the name font color. I would've liked a few more emotion states for each character or cutscenes. There would be times when what was said in the text wasn't reflected in the character's face, and some situations I felt deserved more love from the artist.

Sound - 2.5/5It's ok. Nice that both sounds and music can be adjusted.

Mechanics - 3.5/5Great to have quick save and save states. Would be nice to be able to scroll back and forth, I didn't find that option if it was possible. It didn't feel like the player's decisions had much impact, but I didn't play through to see if Aadra had a redemption storyline.

Overall - 3.5/5   Difficulty - N/A

Completed - Playthrough (~5-6 hrs)

Hey thanks!

Thanks for making the game!

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why do i have to be straight in this game

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Unlike my other work, Nowhere Girl, Lucy (or however you decide to name her) is a defined character within Animal Lover with attributes and traits outside of the decisions of the player. Considering the extremely gendered nature of the narrative of Animal Lover, extending into America's history of gender relations, I did not feel as though these characters would have achieved the same narrative were the main character to be male, much less so had the same kind of incidental dialogue.

Granted, Nowhere Girl has a female protagonist, so in terms of great non-straight VNs with male love interests, I recommend Hustle Cat. The writing is cute, I'm a big fan of the art, it's a good time all around. 2064: Read Only Memories also has a plethora of gender and romance options and a pretty stellar writer at the helm. It's not a VN per se, but it's still a fun point and click.

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why not make the main character gender neutral? or a simple choice to choose between two characters that are basically the same but with different pronouns

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Normally I would, and I have, but the concept being that these characters are from different parts of (mostly) American history means that they come packaged with extremely gendered ideas. Take Frankie's freakout at the coffee shop, Miguel's unique perspective on his own bisexuality and the ways in which each separate boy interacts with Aadara.

Animal Lover is a uniquely gendered story. It's a concept we discussed when beginning the development, to make the character genderless, but Lucy had come into her own as a character during the outlining process and we decided to follow her story to the end. I think, as a result, the women playing it have managed to find something particularly relatable or intimate about it.

Just as Coming Out On Top would not be the same without being a story particularly about non-straight relationships, Animal Lover is distinctly about women's interaction with men and vice versa.

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I totally get the thinking with this now, thanks for clearing it up

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Of course, and I totally understand if Animal Lover doesn't appeal to you now. But thank you, genuinely, for raising your concerns. :)

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"No furries" and you lost me

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Charlie Fitzgerald, a character in the game, is a FAIRLY hairy dude. Does that count?

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"No furries!" You lost me (Joking by the way)

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Hey! Shoo! Get back to Major\Minor! Your kind ain't welcome here, I said git!

(Yeah, me too :) )

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Thought you were referring to Animal Lover. I was thinking "I dunno, I think it's okay..."

Actually I never played Major\Minor. I'm very curious, why's it so bad?

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Twice now I thought this was about my game XD

Damn! That's a shame. Ahh, well.

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there should really be some sort of content warning for Kyle's route, I feel. Spoiler warning, but:  Especially since the event near the end where he commits suicide happens so suddenly with zero warning.

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Wait what? That is jarring. 

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yeah it was completely out of the blue, i just hope the creator eventually puts up a content warning for it

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I have heard and understand your concerns. However, I don't plan on it, for a number of reasons.

Spoiler warnings from here on out;

Firstly, the abstraction of the nature of suicide. By the time the nature of the deadly event is realized for what it is by the characters (that is to say, self-inflicted), it has been made clear that this may not have been as deadly or as permanent an event as real-world suicide truly is. In fact, to put a content warning for suicide alongside a game that makes abundantly clear that Kyle can "get better" would be to do disservice to its nature. Compare my Ludum Dare entry "Not Clowning Around" that has, what some may call similar subject matter, but I disagree. The "joke" in Not Clowning Around is that of an implied and genuinely permanent event, hence why I did place a content warning alongside Not Clowning Around, but not beside Animal Lover.

Secondly is the abstraction of the event. In stark contrast to, say, the suicide in Doki Doki Literature Club, the visuals do not immediately imply suicide. They do communicate a traumatic event, that is to say discovering the body of a beloved animal run over by a car, but this is not the same as placing my character's cloudy eyes on screen in order to shock or terrify. In fact, it was a point of discussion during development to make the visual unclear in terms of detail but deeply clear in terms of impact. A far-away visual of an animal's still body. These do not carry the connotation of suicide, and intentionally so. Granted, the subject does become suicide, which leads me to my next point:

Thirdly, it is not immediately clear that this tragic event was self-inflicted. It is only realized after a cascade of realizations surrounding Kyle's character that this could have only been self-inflicted, during the same conversation where the characters realize, due to the magical nature of the story, Kyle may manage to arise from the dead. The tragedy is, thus, not that Kyle is gone forever (as real world suicide exists) but that he was in such a deeply depressed state that he would act upon his suicidal tendencies. Realizing that someone is capable of suicide is a tragic, but wholly different circumstance than someone actually having committed suicide.

Fourth, as an extremely late-game event, in a story rife with references to and usage of sex, alcohol and violence, that even were the player unaware before that the story is mature in nature, they should be aware of the game's mature nature by this point. Either the children in the room have been shooed out or they're still playing when they absolutely shouldn't be.

Fifth, trigger warnings and content warnings have been shown through multiple studies, such as a study from Sanson, Strange and Garry (cited below) on the relative uselessness of trigger warnings, or a study by G. A. Boysen (also cited below) on how avoidance of triggers and trauma reminders may contribute to the persistence of PTSD. I just haven't been personally convinced that trigger warnings are particularly helpful.

But lastly, even if none of these things applied, which they all do, to add a trigger warning to a serious discussion of a character's mental health is something I find personally distasteful. This is a game intended for adults and while a discussion of tone is certainly feasible, (I feel as though it was a smooth transition from benign hardship to the existence of life and death in banal situations), some may not agree. Regardless of whether its execution was "good" or "bad", my intended audience consists of adults, and as an adult I would prefer if the storytellers giving me stories checked my ID and sent me on my way to the theater, rather than prefacing the story by telling me what events are going to occur in it on the off-chance that this story is too mature for me.

I understand your concerns, I do, I even empathize. But I feel it's a strange askance of a creator. God knows I'm not taking it personally, but I can certainly imagine others who could, or would, and I would have a hard time blaming them. I've marked Animal Lover as having sensitive content on Steam, Itch and Google Play.

If you would like to discuss further means by which to mark Animal Lover as being a game with mature content, I am naturally, even eagerly open to discussing it. However, trigger warnings and content warnings are not something I'm currently open to considering.

Regardless, I genuinely appreciate you guys reaching out with your concerns.

-Wilson T.

 

Boysen, G. A. (2017). Evidence-based answers to questions about trigger warnings for clinically-based distress: A review for teachers. Scholarship of Teaching and Learning in Psychology, 3(2), 163–177. https://doi.org/10.1037/stl0000084

Sanson, M., Strange, D., & Garry, M. (2019). Trigger Warnings Are Trivially Helpful at Reducing Negative Affect, Intrusive Thoughts, and Avoidance. Clinical Psychological Science, 7(4), 778–793. https://doi.org/10.1177/2167702619827018

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Thank you for the response, and I see what you're saying.

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Of course.

Thank you again, nothing changes if no one is there to criticize or at least to question. It means the world that someone would care enough about my tiny little indie project to bring up their concerns with it. Honestly it does. :)

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Loved the game! But.... I really, REALLY wish that there was a fast forward button, not jest skip to next choice even if you have not read some or any of it. I mean why have a option to adjust skip mode for "read text" to "all text" when you can not fast forward? I mean I understand the appeal of skip but I personally prefer fast forward. Because I can see the events happening on the screen and understand where I am at in the story better when it's time to make a choice. Also I wish there was 1 or 2 more CG's for each guy but that is a minor complaint. I was really sad to see no CG gallery. :( Other then that I really liked it. I liked how they look at who they are talking to and I love the truth or dare bit. XD Good job you guys. :3

edit: found out I can use the tab key to start fast forwarding. So I am happy now and feel like a idiot. ^_^'

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Please excuse me, First of all i want to say this i did enjoy the game (until the point i play it) but i do not seen to be able to choose anything on this choice "Laugh because God is dead" or "Stammer because there is no God", if someone anyone have different beliefs that's perfectly fine but that choice came out of nowhere, makes no sense to what i read about (i have to re-read it a few times). This may be because english is not my first language, if is an expression please let me know, if this is a misunderstanding, if is some kind of denigration of belief, then please refund my money, i want nothing to do with a denigration game.

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I believe it's possible that you've misunderstood. We have no intention of being denigrating to any system of belief, especially seeing as I personally carry a set of religious convictions myself.

That scene is an expression of the main character's frustration and meant to be nothing more. The main character has, in that moment, become so frustrated by an increasingly absurd series of events that "God must be dead", much like the old statement by Friedrich Nietzsche that "We have killed God."

If you would still like a refund for your game, we would be happy to provide you with one, but know that we are of no frame of mind to be harshly criticizing religion or any such deeply held creeds. We're sorry that you interpreted this to be as such and we appreciate your coming to us to voice your concerns.

If you'd like to contact us privately as well, you may do so at our email address 'trainwreckstudiosgames@gmail.com'.

I hope to hear from you soon and I'd like to clear this up as soon as possible!

-Wilson Taylor

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I see, thank you very much for addressing this so quickly, i'm truly glad it was just a misunderstanding, i was enjoying the game very much and feel awful to left the story half way, but truly to me God is the most important thing in the world and the choices left me very confused, i'm glad it was just a misunderstanding, i never hear of those expressions before that was why it caught me off guard, thanks again for clearing the misunderstanding and thanks for the wonderful game and engaging story looking forward to finish it. A refund won't be necessary, my only problem with the game was the misunderstanding, truly thanks again :)

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Of course!

We really hope that you enjoy it and have a great day!

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Thank, i did indeed! :)